*FOOTBALL GAMEPLAY RULES UPDATE* - EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY (9/12)

[Vtech]

hb draws too...the defenders drop back like its a pass even though its a run

[enemyagent83456]

This actually has me swearing like crazy, and I've been thinking about it all day at work. I've been waiting to come home on lunch to write a manifesto on why it is everything wrong but O Dub hit it on its ugly forehead.

This crap about how the NFL doesn't do it is wrong. Before it wasn't ran because of the speed of NFL defenses, but now QBs have flat out blazing speed instead of their stone statue predecessors. Coaches also weren't up for change but new blood is coming in and old blood is realizing the potential has such a high ceiling.

Now on to the glitch branding. Glitch: "A glitch is a short-lived fault in a system" This is not going to require a patch from EA...its not a glitch. As stated before if the DE bites the play works but not always, If the DE doesn't bite you can't run with the QB. QB Wrap gets stopped over 75 percent of the time and keeps people out of *** D (which shouldn't be allowed on these terms)

With the pass being so dominate this year this is an alternate why to scheme. I find passing the ball 99 percent of the game on both sides to be a bit ridiculous. Pass heavy guys got their weapon this year with pass lead and run heavy guys got some nice options too.

Coach, can't disagree more with this and I believe you should take a stand against the other said league and set the right example of what a glitch is or isn't but if not I mildly understand your dilemma.

[KOACHK]

Everyone,
In this league, not everyone has teams with mobile QBs that are able to take advantage of this exploit; but like I said before, it's been banned on a major money game website. If they've gone to the extreme to make that rule, then it definitley has shown to become an issue when too many players have based their entire offensive scheme around this broken aspect of the game. This rule goes along the same lines as the QB Draw Stepback rule; players shouldn't be basing their offense around this broken part of the game, because eventually, everyone would have to incorporate it into their offense, or just opt-out of competing so they don't have to deal with it.

I applaud that site for taking a stand and putting that rule into effect; if you have to basically fix a play, in order for it to do what it was supposed to do in the first place, to defend plays like QB Wrap, then there's a problem. Obviiously, this issue wasn't in NCAA, so there wasn't a need for this rule; once this issue is shown to have been fixed by EA, this rule will be moot.

[dblaze]

Originally Posted by KOACHK

Everyone,
In this league, not everyone has teams with mobile QBs that are able to take advantage of this exploit;

By that analysis, QBs with High Accuracy and Throw Powers shouldn't be able to take advantage of streaks and money routes that some more mobile QBs can't throw nearly as effective 99.999% of the time. Calling this a glitch is sad when you think about all the blitzes people scheme up that are completely unreal and the routes that'll burn the best man coverage corners regardless if it's a scrub WR running the route. The whole point of the Wrap/Read Option in the game and in real life is to use play action to confuse the defense and lure them into chasing the RB. The PA takes long to carry out like real life and that's what makes it so effective in the game and in real life, because the long action forces defenders to commit to either the QB or RB. Following suit of what one money site did (probably a rule made by people who do not even play the game or understand football and simply gave in to people's *****ing) is not what should be done here.

[enemyagent83456]

Coach, I hear you and I'll stop banging my head against the wall but no one can explain why it is 'broken' because its not. All these plays are easy to stop and i just dont see what the exploit is.

[dblaze]

I'm going to throw out there that doing this because of Gamer ******s new rule is completely misguided. From personal experience, I know this as a site who's depth chart rule of no WRs at RB is not even enforced when you audible down from 5 WR sets, because they do not understand how the game operates and even when provided with video evidence of an offence like this, declare it is not a rule violation because the depth chart was not modified to have a WR at RB in the pause menu.

[KOACHK]

Dblaze, are you known by any other name? -Just trying to get an idea of where you're coming from to properly qualify what your'e saying here.

[yo-m-o-m-m-a]

Why are people even arguing this ruling? If you're ok with the banning of running with your QB immediately after the snap, I don't see how you would be against this one even tho in this case, the play clearly glitches the defense (not every time) into going after the RB when you were always going to run with the QB.

[O dub7]

I hear what your saying K, but I've played a bazillion league games where guys exploit the o line, run the same 1 wr route over and over, shake lbs and none of that overly effective stuff gets banned. The fact is the qb option/read play isn't even close to being a glitch. You can cause someone to get a 6 yard loss easily everytime. Joined MG, EAFL, and C4 to not have to deal with rules being changed to accommodate particular members in the league. All years of playing, I've never felt the need to stop playing mid-season (the previous times I've been removed have all come after I've played every game I could and my opponents were no shows and replacements were made weeks after the no shows) but I really don't see the point in continuing. I say this because I don't see the point in trying to lab and implement other effective schemes not knowing whether or not it's going to be banned in two weeks (why I stopped playing in sim leagues, ie: if your running a play I can't stop, your a cheeser, glitcher, etc.) I always made a conscious effort not to find/use exploits in the game. Even when opponents last year used he 1-5-5 shake, I still refused to do it back although it was allowed by the league. I probably only even run the qb read( edit: or option plays) at most 3 times a game to keep my oppent guessing, but it's the principle of banning something that's not a glitch and can be stopped. If this is banned, there are tons more worse plays that should be banned. I think I'm better suited just casually playing boring ranked games against randoms. Was planning on getting back in town and knocking out a couple more games to have 13 in for the week's requirement, but for the first time I'm asking to be removed. If this is banned, we really need to reconsider what we deem "freestyle". Everyone I've played still in the league since MG, it's been real, but I'm not coming back. Tdavis, Dave, jeezy, ZAN, Killa, bamma, boogie, dilloo, it's been real. Nothing personal, I just disagree and feel I'm entitled to disagree. K, c4 is still the best "option" (no pun intended) in the madden community and I wish you nothing but the best. Just baffled.

Edit: oh and remember, Odell will win.

[KOACHK]

Just to clarify, QB Read Option has been excluded from this rule; but if it ever becomes broken like QB Wrap is, then the same rule will apply to it.